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Warminster 8-30 Vids

Postby scootersar » Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:32 am

Well, Finally were here. We can now all see the master at work. Video stinks and is not as good as I can view here. Maybe someone can help.

Steven's best run was #3 46.237 but hit a cone after the finish, suck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO7z9_l8AM4

Sal's best run was #2 45.056

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li5hNyfNFu8
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Re: Warminster 8-30 Vids

Postby wrx wagone » Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:27 am

Steven, Sal is on the throttle much more than you are. The first set of offsets is pretty tell tail.
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Re: Warminster 8-30 Vids

Postby Simmons-Racing » Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:19 am

I watched the Video with you and Sal at the same time, it looks like it comes down to Sal is much smoother with his inputs the car never gets upset with him driving it.
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Re: Warminster 8-30 Vids

Postby Scoob » Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:31 am

Yep, smoother and on the gas more. I resemble that remark as most of my videos from last year showed, Sal just pegs it longer and can still be smoother. Ah, youth...

As for the video, you're processing it down too much. YouTube does further processing so try to upload the best quality vids you can and hope that YouTube does the High Quality or High Definition option. There should be readily available info on how to make that happen on the site. Upload times will be significantly longer, but quality will go up by leaps and bounds.
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Re: Warminster 8-30 Vids

Postby TedDBere » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:16 am

Just watch the red deceleration bar on Sal's run and then watch your's. Sal only gets above one dot in a few places while you're above it in a whole lot more. Great instructional video series on carrying speed and being gentle on braking inputs.
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Re: Warminster 8-30 Vids

Postby scootersar » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:28 am

I believe that I am sending it at the highest quality but I will have to mess with it. Each Video off the Dat Recorder is 15mb so what would you suggest I convert it to? I use Ulead so I can put it in any format. Here is the overlay with Sal and I at the same time. Very interesting that Most of my butt kicking came at the turnaround.

Steven w/Sal
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Re: Warminster 8-30 Vids

Postby Scoob » Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:56 am

From YouTube help:
YouTube accepts a wide range of video file formats such as .WMV, .AVI, .MOV, and .MPG. Here are a few things that may work well for you:

* MPEG4 (Divx, Xvid) format
* MP3 audio
* Video resolution: 480x360 or higher
* Frame Rate: 24fps or higher

So if your setup stores in .avi format, upload that. Those would be bigger than 15 mb for a minute, though. Might have to up the resolution at the camera end to bump it up further along the chain.
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Re: Warminster 8-30 Vids

Postby Simmons-Racing » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:23 am

Here is my Clean 50.7 run http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiqJlXIOFdI

Don't tear it apart to much, I am still learning the car :D


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Re: Warminster 8-30 Vids

Postby Surferjer » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:30 am

Great one, Eric. Tear it apart? Use it for lessons. Obviously not perfect, but that was very nice.

I'd love to have another 3-4 cracks at that course.
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Re: Warminster 8-30 Vids

Postby wrx wagone » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:46 am

Yeah Eric, it looked pretty damn good to me.
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Re: Warminster 8-30 Vids

Postby piknockout » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:50 am

I'll post my "loose car/over-drivers anonymous" video later. Ugh.

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Re: Warminster 8-30 Vids

Postby leachyboy2001 » Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:37 pm

Surferjer wrote:I'd love to have another 3-4 cracks at that course.


Agreed, It took me four runs to figure out how not to take out entire slaloms.
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Re: Warminster 8-30 Vids

Postby scootersar » Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:00 pm

We could of used a few more runs but our tires were totally toasted after the 4th runs.

Here are some higher quality vids where you can see much further ahead.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzYEvaf46H0

Sal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMRMPg1wqR0
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Re: Warminster 8-30 Vids

Postby scootersar » Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:55 pm

Higher Rez video with Sal and Steven with both runs on one video

Steven with Sal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du7Z_Zo81_w

Sal with Steven
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pFXsrEqFOk
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Re: Warminster 8-30 Vids

Postby Scoob » Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:10 pm

That's more like it quality-wise.
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Re: Warminster 8-30 Vids

Postby scootersar » Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:13 am

Here is Sal's 5th run with his fastest recorded run 2. If Sal had not of done his superman over the bump he would have been much faster. Check it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nicf7OcEFZ4
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Re: Warminster 8-30 Vids

Postby wrx wagone » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:42 pm

^^^ That was sick. Sal, go win next week. :wink:
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Re: Warminster 8-30 Vids

Postby Scoob » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:54 pm

At least 1 sec faster. That bump was nasty on that run.
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Re: Warminster 8-30 Vids

Postby waktasz » Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:07 pm

Here's my dirty 49.0 :( Sorry for the bouncy video, didn't have the suction mount pushed onto the window quite hard enough.

Gotta love the busted Corvette seat too.


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Re: Warminster 8-30 Vids

Postby tcj103 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:28 pm

I beat that by 10 sec! Oh wait, lower is better.
My run where I spun in the first slalom.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nouBtjx38qs

Best time, clean 59.6, but nothing remarkable

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du4-_zm-OyY

I need to strap down the camera better, and clean up the audio problem. Not sure what the clipping sounds are.
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Re: Warminster 8-30 Vids

Postby exhaust_note » Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:04 pm

tcj103 wrote:I beat that by 10 sec! Oh wait, lower is better.
My run where I spun in the first slalom.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nouBtjx38qs

Best time, clean 59.6, but nothing remarkable

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du4-_zm-OyY

I need to strap down the camera better, and clean up the audio problem. Not sure what the clipping sounds are.


seems like your driving to each element and not setting yourself up for the next one and you end up being late.
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Re: Warminster 8-30 Vids

Postby scootersar » Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:07 pm

Video's are great.

Sounds like an shielding problem with your wires. I would check your connections and try to isolate you power from the car. Get you self a power pack to run the recorders or use their internal batteries. If you are also using a remote mic turn the gain down.
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Re: Warminster 8-30 Vids

Postby tcj103 » Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:54 am

On driving technique from Sal:
My main goal last year was not to be last, and to stay on course (rookie season). So I seem to be able to stay on course, at least as far as mental processing goes. Spins and car control are another matter. I'm still working on putting together the "big picture" approach to attacking a course, I guess that will come with instruction and experience.

On the audio problems:
The recording is done on a netbook (small, cheap laptop computer), which is running both Maxqdata and the video recording through a USB webcam. The netbook is also running on it's own internal batteries. The webcam has an integrated microphone, so the sound is digitally encoded by the time it leaves the camera.

I'll check the system when the car isn't running, and see if that makes any difference. However the webcam I'm using is the recommended model by the Maxq guys, a logitech pro VX-9000. I haven't seen anything like my problem on their forums either. My netbook model is different from their package deal however.
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Re: Warminster 8-30 Vids

Postby IsItElectric? » Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:17 pm

tcj103 wrote:On driving technique from Sal:
My main goal last year was not to be last, and to stay on course (rookie season). So I seem to be able to stay on course, at least as far as mental processing goes. Spins and car control are another matter. I'm still working on putting together the "big picture" approach to attacking a course, I guess that will come with instruction and experience.



Sal is right. One thing that goes hand in hand with what he's saying is one of the fundamental elements of autox (and road racing, driving on the street, etc etc): looking ahead. The farther ahead you can look and process information, the more the course 'slows down' as you drive through it. Looking ahead & processing are the keys to going fast.....do this properly and the speed will come by default.

When I'm driving through the course, typically I'm 2-3 sections ahead mentally, but I get my eyes back to what is happening directly in front of me for precise placement only, and this occurs at the fractions-of-a-second timeframe. That's the plan, anyway....it doesn't always work out that way!!!!! :innocent:

Also, I try to spend a lot of time analyzing the course. Probably too much. When the notes I take and the analysis gets to be too much, I always remind myself to look ahead as the golden rule before getting out on course. Seems to help.

I must admit, the cone-wall-offsets of the second half of the first half of the course on Sunday were a blur of cones....a lot to process while going fast. This element was one of the most fun parts of Sunday.....a sea of cones that you could literally drive through with a wide-open throttle (mostly). All the while your brain is thinking "holy crap, there are a lot of cones here, slow the heck down", but you also had to force yourself to pin the throttle through there. FUN.

My $0.02, FWIW.

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Re: Warminster 8-30 Vids

Postby IsItElectric? » Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:41 pm

tcj103 wrote:I beat that by 10 sec! Oh wait, lower is better.
My run where I spun in the first slalom.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nouBtjx38qs

Best time, clean 59.6, but nothing remarkable

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du4-_zm-OyY

I need to strap down the camera better, and clean up the audio problem. Not sure what the clipping sounds are.


RE: your 59.6. Line looked good to me...good work. You may have gotten a bit late on the offset slalom prior to the end. 'Attack' those slalom cones and get your car rotated a bit more relative to where you were. My $0.02, FWIW. Looks like you got sufficiently close to the cones as well.

MaxQ + video looks awesome. I really want to spring for this type of measurement tool at some point.
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